Alessandra di Giovanni ([info]ks0girl) wrote,
2005-07-19 12:59:00
  • Mood: contemplative
Went to my doctor today to find out what could be done about the awful hacking cough I've developed that makes it sound like my lungs are trying to escape. I also wanted to discuss the fact that I now have another cold sore, my third in about a month and a half, and my fourth since March. Came away with a diagnosis of bronchitis or possibly broncholitis (I don't know what the diff is), a recommendation for a supplement to prevent cold sores, and four prescriptions. Going to the doctor is fun! *cough cough wheeze* ^_^



Ok, so this was unintentionally pointed out to me with regards to one of the RoundTable topics at the Witching Hour. Did Snape want to kill Dumbledore? Or was he required to by the Unbreakable Vow he took in chapter 2?

"Will you, Severus, watch over my son, Draco, as he attempts to fulfill the Dark Lord's wishes?"
"And will you, to the best of your ability, protect him from harm?"
"And should it prove necessary...if it seems Draco will fail...will you carry out the deed that the Dark Lord has ordered Draco to perform?"

Did Snape even have a choice? If he didn't do it, he himself would have died, thus terminating his usefulness to which ever side he is loyal to. The look he gave AD just before killing him was one of "hatred and revulsion" - was this because he hated AD for allowing himself to land in just such a situation? Maybe revulsion at himself for the task he knew he must do. Surely Snape told AD about the Unbreakable Vow; maybe AD told Snape to go ahead and go through with it when and if the time came. And was Narcissa's requesting the Vow also a manipulation of Voldie's to ensure Snape's Loyalty?

Just something I was thinking about.
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[info]shmitz

July 19 2005, 21:45:33 UTC 6 years ago

I'm assuming that as your post contains spoilers, comments are expected to be spoiler-riddled as well, so here they come, so anyone who hasn't finished reading the book can hit their back button as quickly as possible now:


I believe Harry is the sixth Horcrux.

[info]ks0girl

July 19 2005, 23:52:19 UTC 6 years ago

O_o Woah...I like your theory!

[info]shmitz

July 20 2005, 01:06:12 UTC 6 years ago

It's fairly well supported by the book. It's etablished or theorized that a) horcruxes can be already living things (the snake), b) horcruxes are created by murdering people, and c) Voldemort was attempting to create his sixth horcrux by killing Harry.

If correct, it also explains a lot about the connections between Harry and Voldemort, beyond just "oh it's from when he tried to kill him".

[info]assassingalaxia

July 20 2005, 02:36:47 UTC 6 years ago

I agree. The whole Parseltongue ability is one major piece of evidence to support the theory. Plus, I think somewhere in the earlier books, Dumbledore tells Harry that Voldemort put part of himself in Harry.

[info]del_chan

July 20 2005, 13:48:19 UTC 6 years ago

While [info]shmitz and I talked about how appropriate it would be if Harry was the sixth Horcrux, what with the fact that in order to kill Voldemort, he would have to kill himself (and how much Rawling-esque angst would ensue from a decision like that)... according to what we know at the moment, (1) Harry has to be the one to kill Voldemort, and (2) the first six Horcruxes have to be destroyed before he can touch Voldemort. So, uhh, unless the Horcrux removal could possibly be non-fatal, I don't know how that's gonna work.

[info]shmitz

July 20 2005, 18:10:24 UTC 6 years ago

I don't think the six horcruxes have to be destroyed *first*. It's just that as long as any of them remain, Voldemort can come back if killed. "Coming back" would probably take as long as it did the first time though, so there'd be plenty of room for dealing with the Harry problem.

[info]taru_chan

July 20 2005, 00:29:58 UTC 6 years ago

Did anybody ever get the feeling that, when harry chased down Snape, and Snape was countering all his attacks before he could finish...I dunno...It seemed to me that snape was tryin to get Harry to learn how to use nonverbal attacks...
"Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep you mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!"
Coulda been taunting him, too, I guess. ::shrugs:: just a thought that popped in when I was reading...

[info]ks0girl

July 20 2005, 00:42:51 UTC 6 years ago

I thought so too. See, I really don't think that Snape is still necessarily on Voldie's side, I think he might still be spying, and under Dumbledore's orders to have gone ahead and killed him. And what's with the phoneix Hsrry briefly saw come out of the fire around AD's body?

[info]kszbasschick

July 20 2005, 06:26:25 UTC 6 years ago

I was just talking about this with John... Snape didn't have any choice but to kill AD. My assumption (I'm new at all this, so correct me if I'm wrong here) is that Snape is literally unable to break the Unbreakable Vow - it was bound by the magic of a third party. Draco was obviously unable to do it himself meaning Snape had to. I can totally see how he'd still be on the good side, he made the vow obviously beleiving that that little (word I won't say or type goes here), Draco would have enough evil and disrespect in him to do it, but he didn't. He is still so much a child, that he couldn't do it. He still has so much immaturity in him that he doesn't want to realize, he seriously hasn't been through that much especially when compared to what Harry's been through. He has so much learning and growing to do and he no longer has his dad to hide behind. He always had his daddy to run to and he doesn't right now. Wow, I've been so overthinking this... And the whole Harry as a Horcrux thing... now that's got me thinking. AAAH!!! Another night filled with dreams of Harry Potter!
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